** (brief) Trial Update – Day 2 ** & The Conditional Grandmother

Today was day 2 of the trial.  We are officially underway with testimonies.  We had testimonies from witnesses in the Plaintiff’s case, as well as “expert witnesses” there to confirm and completely deny the claims made by Vianna and Theta Healing.

We’ll get back to that later…

For now however, we’d like to briefly touch on one of the other things that was discussed – Vianna’s role as a grandmother.  If you’ve been to Vianna’s seminars/workshops/sermons, you know that she loves to talk incessantly about how much of a loving and doting grandmother she is, and just how many grandchildren she has.  What she generally fails to mention along with this, is that she also continues to claim Lindsey’s children as her grandchildren.  And we suppose, technically speaking, that they are.

That being said, we’re going to re-post one of Lindsey’s blog posts from March of 2010.  In it, Lindsey explains, in detail, just how “loving” of a grandmother Vianna really is.

Read the post below, and then ask yourself: does this sound like the actions of a grandmother that is gushing with unconditional love for her grandchildren?  Does this sound like love at all?  Does this even sound like the actions of anyone who would call themselves a grandmother?

Or… does it sound heartless?

Read for yourself.  And decide for yourself…

written by Lindsey Stock in  March of 2010…

I’ve kept the subject matter of this post to myself for nearly a year and a half. It is now time to let it be seen.

I have been publicly berated, called everything from a frail woman to a pretend mom. My intentions are often said to be due to my obvious self hatred/loathing, anger, hate and lack of unconditional love. For anyone who can see past their own distress of me being an open ThetaQuestioner™ , I am confident enough to be who I am if it will benefit anyone at all.

I am a mom of 4 kids whose initials spell H.E.A.L. and whose ages, as of tomorrow, are 1, 3, 5 and 7 years old. They are perfect in every way and, if I may gush pridefully for just a moment, they are beautiful. I have a child who has perfect pitch and sings like an angel, I have a math whiz, I have a superhero in the making, I have a child with incredible compassion, I have an artist, I have a magician, I have a neat freak and an incredibly health-conscious eater… I am the proud mom of 4 wild and crazy monkeys who love to pray all on their own, and who are loved dearly.

Getting Down to Business:

When my little girl was only 18 months old, Josh, (her paternal DNA contributor) left her and never looked back. She developed a severe ear infection the day he left and cried out for the one who left her for several days in a row. Unlike her father, Ella’s ear infection would not leave. She screamed most of the day and much of the night. After many, many doctor appointments and a sickening amount of antibiotics it was decided that the only real option was getting ear tubes. It was planned and family and friends were told.

When the day came I sat in the silent waiting room, alone (as her “dad” didn’t bother to come), waiting for Ella to come back to me. The suggested time-frame for the length of surgery came and went with no sign of her. Anyone who’s sat in a waiting room for their child to come out of surgery knows the nervous energy that can create endless hypothetical, stressful outcomes of even a “simple” surgery. She finally arrived and the doctor was shocked at how “sick” her ears were. He described at length that they were far worse than what he’d been able to see previously. They burst with blood at the slightest touch and puss poured out, making the surgery quite an arduous task. He was hesitantly satisfied, yet concerned at the possible damage that had been done. But the relief that Ella felt showed on her happy face. That was Halloween day, one month after Josh left.

Then this came.

Vianna made the conscious, deliberate decision to cut off her granddaughter from much-needed medical insurance on the very day of her surgery. Call me what you’d like! Toss “pretend mom” at me and tell me I’m fat and ugly, but look me straight in the eye and tell me if that is the behavior of a Grandmother. I was pregnant, I had 3 asthmatic children and a very small daughter who was in constant, screaming pain.

Bobbi and Brandy have made a weak attempt to blame me for that decision saying that I told Vianna to take us off of medical insurance. (Honestly. I only wish I were kidding.)

Does this situation hold any bearing on ThetaHealing? Why would I even mention this?

You need to understand the leader of this cult. In public, to her paying followers, she appears to be so full of love and joy- willing to do anything for anyone. On everything she touches, it is added that Vianna Stibal is a grandmother, an artist and a writer. One of my favorite quotes on the subject is on YouTube.

“I have 8 grandchildren and I feel pretty freakin’ amazing!”

Normally, the mentioning of grandchildren is supposed to endear the listener/reader. It has always been so strange to me how often Vianna mentions that she’s a grandmother both in written and spoken form, yet she would literally walk right by my children when I brought them to say hello to her. I never understood it before, but my eyes are wide open now.

When a woman says, “I’m a grandmother,” she usually changes her entire demeanor to express even a subconscious loving, caring feeling about the children who gave her that special title. But not Vianna. I’ve watched her for years. She nods, looks around and, with body language, says, “I know, it’s hard to believe that someone so young and vibrant could be a grandmother, right?” It’s a sales pitch; it’s not love.

Vianna adds the stereotypical terms like, “My grandkids can do no wrong and I carry pictures of them in my wallet.” Usually women spew out facts or even general feelings about her grandkids (my mother does it all the time!). But in countless videos and in countless in-person seminars Vianna isn’t moved by the thought of sweet children. She says that the children of her children can do no wrong! She carries pictures! It’s got nothing to do with the children. It’s part of the trap of being a great, charismatic cult-leader. She’s incredibly adept at getting people to see in her what she wants them to see.

A grandmother.

As I commented on YouTube, Vianna is not the caretaker of any of those 8 (now 9) grandchildren. Why wouldn’t she feel fantastic? In fact, at least 5 of them NEVER see her due to the choice of the mothers of those children. Also, Vianna was 17 when she had Josh and Bobbi was 15 when she had Jena. Josh having 6 kids, all of whom he abandoned, by the time he was 28 just adds to the kid-stew. The fact that Vianna “looks so young” is no more a product of the magic of ThetaHealing than it is from the crackers she added to her soup at lunchtime.

And to make matters worse, Vianna puts her innocent grandkids on camera to appeal to the female audience. I encourage you to watch the videos that show her grandkids and see for yourself how forced it feels how she talks to them. The worst one, by far, is the one of Jena discussing her arm and the accident that should never have happened.

In Bobbi’s description on her blog, the miracle was that where no adult was supervising a child on a potentially deadly vehicle, a nearby nurse was able to see the accident and rescue her. Jena went to the hospital and was obviously (and thankfully!) well taken care of! But, in the end, Bobbi says, “Now if you ask Jena she will tell you she healed so Fast because of ThetaHealing.”

I read the full account at http://lottsbbj.blogspot.com/ and you can, too. Jena was allowed to ride something that she was not equipped to handle at such a young age without supervision. Nearby people were the reason her life was saved. They called the paramedics and Jena was taken to the hospital. Her arm was operated on by professional, skilled, EDUCATED people. It broke my heart to keep reading that the theme of Jena’s life being spared and her arm being saved was all about ThetaHealing and dear ol’ “grandma”. The true lifesavers were the people who found her and took care of her and the doctors who made sure she’d be okay. The saddest part yet was turning the situation into a ThetaHealing commercial. Real emotions have left- the only thing that remains is selling ThetaHealing and the abilities, however brainwashed into a child, of a “healing” grandmother. Christina Hlusak asked Jena, “Do you want to use ThetaHealing in your future?”

“I want to, yes. I want to be as good as grandma, but not better than her.”

The person who makes her living off of convincing people that if they don’t love everyone and everything unconditionally then they must find ThetaHealing (the way a prisoner finds Jesus), has a very specific condition placed upon her family- especially grandchildren. Grandma Vianna is the Founder of ThetaHealing; treat her as such and you’ll be taken care of.

More updates to follow.

Truth will out.  

-Perry.

Genes cost $170

   The following is a post originally published by Lindsey Stock in March of 2010.  As we’ve mentioned before, from time to time, we will be re-posting some of Lindsey’s most important information and insights for people to see and read for themselves.  The following article talks about Vianna’s insistence that Genes (and therefore DNA) can be changed instantly with….you guessed it….Theta Healing.  Lindsey offers some great insight in this article and poses some very interesting and logical questions.  Questions that you should ask any Theta Healer before you decide to invest in any of their services or decide to take any o f their classes.  

Always ask questions.

And enjoy the article below.

***Originally posted in March of 2010***

“I’m gonna show you how to change a gene, just the way I was shown by the Creator… I’m gonna tell you that we’ve been pretty successful with this… Changing a gene is actually probably the simplest healing you can do.

It takes a half an hour a piece for you to teach, and I know that Guy really wants to go over contracts with you today… so it will take us about two hours to test to make sure that you guys are comfortable teaching…

I’m gonna show you how to change a gene, are you ready to go? How do you change a gene? This particular procedure is used for genetic defects such as retardation. You can kind of use it for Down syndrome, even though Down syndrome is a, a double strand of the same strand… Your body is made up of 5 things. It’s made up of carbohydrates, nucleic acid, proteins, something called ATP and lipids… these nucleic acids are put together by something called a hydrogen bond. If you were a microbiologist or a chemist, you would know that a hydrogen bond is the easiest atomic structure to change. K? It’s the easiest.

Well sometimes the DNA gets messed up. Since it’s the easiest thing to change, it would be the easiest thing to heal… DNA is so smart that they actually have to make scientists leave the room and go away  in order to conduct experiments on DNA because they found that the scientists thoughts were actually changing the experiments… and the Creator told me that there’s like a master cell, that if you change that cell the whole body changes… you go up and you say, ‘Creator, this child would like to change, take care of it, thank you it is done, it is done.’ And you go in and you witness, you see a flash of light, and it’s changed.”

Vianna Stibal says that changing genes is the “simplest” healing.

Adrenoleukodystrophy, Adrenomyelonueropathy, Huntington disease, phenylketonuria, Marfan syndrome, hemophilia, sickle cell anemia, galactosemia, cystic fibrosis, polycystic kidney disease, Tay-Sachs disease, hypertrichosis pinnae, Duchenne muscular dystrophy, gauchers disease…

Vianna says on one of her YouTube videos that she has seen millions of diseases. Millions. Vianna says that fixing genes is the simplest healing you can do. Why, then are there so many people in the world with genetic diseases? If they’re easy to fix then what on Earth are all these Theta “Healers” doing with their time? If it only takes an instant, shouldn’t it be easy to fix millions of people?

Countless people suffer everyday. Sickle cell anemia affects a staggering 1 in 625 African-Americans, reducing life expectancy to about 42 years old. If ThetaHealing is so effective at fixing these “simple” diseases, that kill people (children/women/men) everyday…  then why are people still suffering? If all someone has to do is pay (according to one Healer’s website) $170 for a session to rid one’s self of a debilitating genetic disease, who in their right mind wouldn’t do this? No one wouldn’t do it. And if they didn’t have the money themselves, and had a stingy healer, who wouldn’t lend/give that small amount to someone who will soon be CURED?! If a mother could avoid the trauma her newborn baby, born with a genetic defect, would experience… would she not avoid thousands of dollars in medical bills, surgeries and more?

If Theta Healing worked, people would be perfect.

No one would be dis-eased. Theta Practitioners would heal babies in the womb (who they can apparently see before their birth, with ease no less) before they ever had to spend a single second on the earth with a genetic mutation. If all it took was seeing a flash in your mind and “telling” God to fix a defective gene, then suffering would end for millions of people everyday… until no more disease existed in the world. The world would leave Christianity permanently and “convert” to Theta.

But it doesn’t work.

ThetaHealing preys on those who seek help and those who long for a quick fix. Vianna Stibal arrogantly claims to have received a “procedure” from God that heals genetic disorders in virtually no time at all! Look at her. Listen to the way she talks and the things that she says. Read her quotes above; look at her overweight body. She supposedly gets information from God, yet God isn’t aware of how to pronounce the words she is told?… and God is well-known by major religions in both the past and present to be wrong on a constant basis? Is God also known to give unique, never-before-heard techniques to women who lie, cheat, defraud, plagiarize  gossip, abuse their body, welcome physical/emotional/financial abandonment of innocent children, accept adultery in “healing” sessions, disobey laws, and charge a great deal of money for unsubstantiated claims? Not last time I checked.

It’s time for people to question these ridiculous claims. This must stop.

Where are all of the recipients of the instantly healed genetic defects? They don’t exist.  Oh, and there’s one more person who doesn’t exist:  the knowledgeable Naturopath, Massage Therapist and loving Grandmother who healed herself of cancer. She doesn’t exist.  She’s just more lies made up by Vianna Stibal.

Heaven’s Gate versus ThetaHealing

We have to give credit where credit is due.

The following post was compiled from information that originally existed on Lindsey Stock’s now-deactivated website:  donttreadontruth.wordpress.com

In the post you are about to read, Lindsey had originally taken the time to draw the correlations that exist between Theta Healing and the notorious Heaven’s Gate cult, which tragically claimed the lives of 39 people in 1997 in San Diego.  As you will find, the comments made from members of both groups are disturbingly similar.   These parallels are not merely coincidence.  They are the statements made by members of cults.

Make no mistake about it:  Theta Healing is a cult.

Take the time to read the quotes and accounts from members of each group below.   And check back to this site as we will soon be doing a post on all of the ways that history and development of Theta Healing nearly mirrors the history and development of another very famous worldwide cult:  The Church of Scientology.

“I do not care for glory.” Marshall Applewhite, Founder, Heaven’s Gate®

“Vianna never wants to be worshipped or a guru…[she’s] special because she brings this to the world with unconditional love and immense compassion.” ThetaHealing™ Member

“I wish you could all be here, I wish you were lucky and fortunate as we are. I don’t think any of us could be more happy.” Heaven’s Gate® Member

“What I got… is profound, tremendous. What I’m gonna use that for is to teleport, hopefully I could teleport really soon.” Thetahealing™ Member

“Come and try it… In the world itself there’s a lot of problems, and you actually get to work on your childhood problems and just problems in general… This is something that should be cherished and enjoyed.” ThetaHealing™ Member

“I just wanted to let everyone know how lucky and happy I am to be here.” Heaven’s Gate® Member

“My intent is to move objects, teleport, levitate and fly.” ThetaHealing™ Member

“We knew we had to prepare… The Away Team goes down to the planet, does what they have to do and then they come back up.” Heaven’s Gate® Member

“You have forgotten your true Creator.” Heaven’s Gate® Member

“Thank you to Vianna Stibal and to the Creator of All That Is for bringing forth into our generation and our lifetime this beautiful and multifaceted modality.” ThetaHealing™ Member

 “A most extraordinary individual… very committed and devoted to his task, very committed and devoted to his students, extremely loving, very altruistic, wanted the best for everyone.” Heaven’s Gate® Member

“I truly love Vianna and respect her integrity.” ThetaHealing™ Member

 “You’re living In your own separate body, you’re having your own life experience, so to actually tell your brain that it’s connected to everything may not be so easy.” Vianna Stibal, Founder, ThetaHealing™

“Breaking away from the world isn’t easy, it’s tough.” Marshall Applewhite, Founder, Heaven’s Gate®

“When you are connecting to the energy of all that is you are connected.” Vianna Stibal, Founder, ThetaHealing™

“We suggest that anyone serious about considering this go into their most quiet place and ask, scream, with all of their being, directing their asking to the Highest Source they can imagine (beyond Earth’s atmosphere), to give them guidance.” Heaven’s Gate® Member

“I received the message.” Vianna Stibal, Founder, ThetaHealing™

“I have been clearly informed.” Marshall Applewhite, Founder, Heaven’s Gate®

“Cult this and cult that, it’s ridiculous. Jesus was in a cult… the word cult only means ‘a group’.” Mom of Heaven’s Gate® Member

“I know about cults first hand, honey, and this is as far away from a cult than you could possible understand.” ThetaHealing™ Member

♦ On March 26, 1997, near San Diego, CA, Marshall Applewhite led his followers of Heaven’s Gate® to their deaths, via suicide. They believed that the world as we know it was about to be “recycled” to start over and make way for a new civilization. When the Hale Bopp comet got closer to Earth, they took it as a sign that it was time to leave their “vessels” (bodies) and move on to the Next Level. While preparing for their eventual ‘turning in of their vessels’ (their bodies), they spread the word to others and chronicled their journey, which included their final words on video- later released to the media. 39 people took their lives that day, but there are still followers of this cult even today. They believed Applewhite to be Jesus reincarnated as “Do”.   http://www.heavensgate.com/

♦ In 1995, after allegedly being diagnosed with cancer, Vianna Stibal purported to heal that cancer instantly and spontaneously. From there she created a technique called Orian, later named ThetaHealing™. Vianna claims that using this technique that you can heal anything- mentally, physically, emotionally as well as inanimate objects. Members are taught that through her series of classes that you can receive a Doctorate of ThetaHealing, and that in one of her ‘upper’ classes, you can learn to walk through walls and refill liquids. All are taught that healings are instantaneous and, if they’re not, then you must do “Belief Work” to fix your personal blocks. To date, ThetaHealing reports members in the thousands throughout several different countries.

◊ Please Note: All pictures are from online testimonials of members of Heaven’s Gate® and ThetaHealing™. The order of the pictures do not necessarily correlate with the nearby quotations. Each picture of the Heaven’s Gate members do have quotations listed throughout the post; not all Theta Healers® have a quote on the post but are for the purpose of showing examples of those who were recorded giving testimonials.

Standard Operating Procedure…

As mentioned in our opening post, this blog was created after we voluntarily took down and deleted our ownership of www.donttreadontruth.wordpress.com.

That blog had been a reconstruction of Lindsey Stock’s earlier blog where she had posted valuable information on the inner workings of the global scam known as Theta Healing.  Within two days of re-creating that blog, this was the first comment we received:

Law
Worldhealer@hotmail.com
69.20.138.121
Submitted on 2012/11/16 at 9:46 pm

Every post you have of Lindsey’s that continues on this site or is repost from her material is a breach of ms stock’s agreement unless of course you are posting without her permission in which case you are violating copyright law WordPress has been notified as well as the proper authorities.

To which we say – thank you “word healer” for enlightening us to what actually occurred.

There had been some question among her supporters as to why Lindsey was taking down her blog.  Now it appears that you’ve been good enough to share with us why.   Looks as though we can add her to the list of people that Theta Healing has bullied and litigated into silence.

A couple of things “World Healer”:

First off, your IP address is collected with your comment.  And a simple IP lookup (that anyone can easily do)  points quite clearly to your location just outside of….*gasp*… Idaho Falls.  (And for those of you who are new to Theta Healing, Idaho Falls is the home and headquarters of Vianna and the “Theta Healing Institute of Knowledge.”)  Why aren’t we the least bit surprised that you are already threatening anyone posting “less-than-glowing” comments about Theta Healing?  Of course you are – that’s the way that THiNK spreads the *unconditional love* right?

Secondly:  Apparently you didn’t read the part where we had pointed out, in plain English, that Lindsey had no administration or control of that blog whatsoever.   And again,  just in case there is any confusion, Lindsey has no connection to this blog either.

Instead of actually backing up and supporting any of the claims made by Vianna and Theta Healing, you threaten and bully the people who dare to question its validity.   Can’t you see how threatening to sue any and everyone who question the transparent lies Theta Healing is built upon is practically akin to an admission of guilt?   Not exactly pleading your case for something that’s supposed to be based upon, and preaches “love and light”.

But we’re not that surprised.  This is Theta Healing’s standard operating procedure.

Though you really should know by now that attempting to silence your critics and the people that question your motives doesn’t exactly win your points in the court of public opinion.

Ultimately though, we have to say thanks.  Because after your comment, now we know what happened to Lindsey.