** (brief) Trial Update – Day 2 ** & The Conditional Grandmother

Today was day 2 of the trial.  We are officially underway with testimonies.  We had testimonies from witnesses in the Plaintiff’s case, as well as “expert witnesses” there to confirm and completely deny the claims made by Vianna and Theta Healing.

We’ll get back to that later…

For now however, we’d like to briefly touch on one of the other things that was discussed – Vianna’s role as a grandmother.  If you’ve been to Vianna’s seminars/workshops/sermons, you know that she loves to talk incessantly about how much of a loving and doting grandmother she is, and just how many grandchildren she has.  What she generally fails to mention along with this, is that she also continues to claim Lindsey’s children as her grandchildren.  And we suppose, technically speaking, that they are.

That being said, we’re going to re-post one of Lindsey’s blog posts from March of 2010.  In it, Lindsey explains, in detail, just how “loving” of a grandmother Vianna really is.

Read the post below, and then ask yourself: does this sound like the actions of a grandmother that is gushing with unconditional love for her grandchildren?  Does this sound like love at all?  Does this even sound like the actions of anyone who would call themselves a grandmother?

Or… does it sound heartless?

Read for yourself.  And decide for yourself…

written by Lindsey Stock in  March of 2010…

I’ve kept the subject matter of this post to myself for nearly a year and a half. It is now time to let it be seen.

I have been publicly berated, called everything from a frail woman to a pretend mom. My intentions are often said to be due to my obvious self hatred/loathing, anger, hate and lack of unconditional love. For anyone who can see past their own distress of me being an open ThetaQuestioner™ , I am confident enough to be who I am if it will benefit anyone at all.

I am a mom of 4 kids whose initials spell H.E.A.L. and whose ages, as of tomorrow, are 1, 3, 5 and 7 years old. They are perfect in every way and, if I may gush pridefully for just a moment, they are beautiful. I have a child who has perfect pitch and sings like an angel, I have a math whiz, I have a superhero in the making, I have a child with incredible compassion, I have an artist, I have a magician, I have a neat freak and an incredibly health-conscious eater… I am the proud mom of 4 wild and crazy monkeys who love to pray all on their own, and who are loved dearly.

Getting Down to Business:

When my little girl was only 18 months old, Josh, (her paternal DNA contributor) left her and never looked back. She developed a severe ear infection the day he left and cried out for the one who left her for several days in a row. Unlike her father, Ella’s ear infection would not leave. She screamed most of the day and much of the night. After many, many doctor appointments and a sickening amount of antibiotics it was decided that the only real option was getting ear tubes. It was planned and family and friends were told.

When the day came I sat in the silent waiting room, alone (as her “dad” didn’t bother to come), waiting for Ella to come back to me. The suggested time-frame for the length of surgery came and went with no sign of her. Anyone who’s sat in a waiting room for their child to come out of surgery knows the nervous energy that can create endless hypothetical, stressful outcomes of even a “simple” surgery. She finally arrived and the doctor was shocked at how “sick” her ears were. He described at length that they were far worse than what he’d been able to see previously. They burst with blood at the slightest touch and puss poured out, making the surgery quite an arduous task. He was hesitantly satisfied, yet concerned at the possible damage that had been done. But the relief that Ella felt showed on her happy face. That was Halloween day, one month after Josh left.

Then this came.

Vianna made the conscious, deliberate decision to cut off her granddaughter from much-needed medical insurance on the very day of her surgery. Call me what you’d like! Toss “pretend mom” at me and tell me I’m fat and ugly, but look me straight in the eye and tell me if that is the behavior of a Grandmother. I was pregnant, I had 3 asthmatic children and a very small daughter who was in constant, screaming pain.

Bobbi and Brandy have made a weak attempt to blame me for that decision saying that I told Vianna to take us off of medical insurance. (Honestly. I only wish I were kidding.)

Does this situation hold any bearing on ThetaHealing? Why would I even mention this?

You need to understand the leader of this cult. In public, to her paying followers, she appears to be so full of love and joy- willing to do anything for anyone. On everything she touches, it is added that Vianna Stibal is a grandmother, an artist and a writer. One of my favorite quotes on the subject is on YouTube.

“I have 8 grandchildren and I feel pretty freakin’ amazing!”

Normally, the mentioning of grandchildren is supposed to endear the listener/reader. It has always been so strange to me how often Vianna mentions that she’s a grandmother both in written and spoken form, yet she would literally walk right by my children when I brought them to say hello to her. I never understood it before, but my eyes are wide open now.

When a woman says, “I’m a grandmother,” she usually changes her entire demeanor to express even a subconscious loving, caring feeling about the children who gave her that special title. But not Vianna. I’ve watched her for years. She nods, looks around and, with body language, says, “I know, it’s hard to believe that someone so young and vibrant could be a grandmother, right?” It’s a sales pitch; it’s not love.

Vianna adds the stereotypical terms like, “My grandkids can do no wrong and I carry pictures of them in my wallet.” Usually women spew out facts or even general feelings about her grandkids (my mother does it all the time!). But in countless videos and in countless in-person seminars Vianna isn’t moved by the thought of sweet children. She says that the children of her children can do no wrong! She carries pictures! It’s got nothing to do with the children. It’s part of the trap of being a great, charismatic cult-leader. She’s incredibly adept at getting people to see in her what she wants them to see.

A grandmother.

As I commented on YouTube, Vianna is not the caretaker of any of those 8 (now 9) grandchildren. Why wouldn’t she feel fantastic? In fact, at least 5 of them NEVER see her due to the choice of the mothers of those children. Also, Vianna was 17 when she had Josh and Bobbi was 15 when she had Jena. Josh having 6 kids, all of whom he abandoned, by the time he was 28 just adds to the kid-stew. The fact that Vianna “looks so young” is no more a product of the magic of ThetaHealing than it is from the crackers she added to her soup at lunchtime.

And to make matters worse, Vianna puts her innocent grandkids on camera to appeal to the female audience. I encourage you to watch the videos that show her grandkids and see for yourself how forced it feels how she talks to them. The worst one, by far, is the one of Jena discussing her arm and the accident that should never have happened.

In Bobbi’s description on her blog, the miracle was that where no adult was supervising a child on a potentially deadly vehicle, a nearby nurse was able to see the accident and rescue her. Jena went to the hospital and was obviously (and thankfully!) well taken care of! But, in the end, Bobbi says, “Now if you ask Jena she will tell you she healed so Fast because of ThetaHealing.”

I read the full account at http://lottsbbj.blogspot.com/ and you can, too. Jena was allowed to ride something that she was not equipped to handle at such a young age without supervision. Nearby people were the reason her life was saved. They called the paramedics and Jena was taken to the hospital. Her arm was operated on by professional, skilled, EDUCATED people. It broke my heart to keep reading that the theme of Jena’s life being spared and her arm being saved was all about ThetaHealing and dear ol’ “grandma”. The true lifesavers were the people who found her and took care of her and the doctors who made sure she’d be okay. The saddest part yet was turning the situation into a ThetaHealing commercial. Real emotions have left- the only thing that remains is selling ThetaHealing and the abilities, however brainwashed into a child, of a “healing” grandmother. Christina Hlusak asked Jena, “Do you want to use ThetaHealing in your future?”

“I want to, yes. I want to be as good as grandma, but not better than her.”

The person who makes her living off of convincing people that if they don’t love everyone and everything unconditionally then they must find ThetaHealing (the way a prisoner finds Jesus), has a very specific condition placed upon her family- especially grandchildren. Grandma Vianna is the Founder of ThetaHealing; treat her as such and you’ll be taken care of.

More updates to follow.

Truth will out.  



Starting next week, Vianna Stibal is going on trial in the Suprior Court of Idaho Falls in Bonneville County, Idaho.

She is going on trial for FRAUD.

This trial is open to the public and the outcome will be decided by a jury.  The facilitator(s) of this website will be in attendance, and we encourage anyone interested in seeing and hearing the overwhelming evidence amassed against Vianna, THiNK, and Theta Healing to also attend.  Also, if you are a Vianna Stibal supporter and living in the area, we encourage you to attend.  While there, you will be able to see first hand, how Vianna responds to the charges against her and how she chooses to defend herself.

We will be posting regular updates of the trial and its progress.  Check back often to hear about how the proceedings are unfolding.

We are looking forward to this.  As should you.

As always,

Truth will out.

How to Start a Cult

Just in case you were wondering.  Here’s a somewhat funny, and yet disturbingly accurate depiction of how cults start and develop.

Granted, not all of this pertains to Vianna and Theta Healing, but as you watch this, we’re quite sure you’ll find plenty of material that does.  Or at least sounds hauntingly familiar.

We can’t help but wonder if Vianna studied this video herself.  Oh the irony.

Heaven’s Gate versus ThetaHealing

We have to give credit where credit is due.

The following post was compiled from information that originally existed on Lindsey Stock’s now-deactivated website:  donttreadontruth.wordpress.com

In the post you are about to read, Lindsey had originally taken the time to draw the correlations that exist between Theta Healing and the notorious Heaven’s Gate cult, which tragically claimed the lives of 39 people in 1997 in San Diego.  As you will find, the comments made from members of both groups are disturbingly similar.   These parallels are not merely coincidence.  They are the statements made by members of cults.

Make no mistake about it:  Theta Healing is a cult.

Take the time to read the quotes and accounts from members of each group below.   And check back to this site as we will soon be doing a post on all of the ways that history and development of Theta Healing nearly mirrors the history and development of another very famous worldwide cult:  The Church of Scientology.

“I do not care for glory.” Marshall Applewhite, Founder, Heaven’s Gate®

“Vianna never wants to be worshipped or a guru…[she’s] special because she brings this to the world with unconditional love and immense compassion.” ThetaHealing™ Member

“I wish you could all be here, I wish you were lucky and fortunate as we are. I don’t think any of us could be more happy.” Heaven’s Gate® Member

“What I got… is profound, tremendous. What I’m gonna use that for is to teleport, hopefully I could teleport really soon.” Thetahealing™ Member

“Come and try it… In the world itself there’s a lot of problems, and you actually get to work on your childhood problems and just problems in general… This is something that should be cherished and enjoyed.” ThetaHealing™ Member

“I just wanted to let everyone know how lucky and happy I am to be here.” Heaven’s Gate® Member

“My intent is to move objects, teleport, levitate and fly.” ThetaHealing™ Member

“We knew we had to prepare… The Away Team goes down to the planet, does what they have to do and then they come back up.” Heaven’s Gate® Member

“You have forgotten your true Creator.” Heaven’s Gate® Member

“Thank you to Vianna Stibal and to the Creator of All That Is for bringing forth into our generation and our lifetime this beautiful and multifaceted modality.” ThetaHealing™ Member

 “A most extraordinary individual… very committed and devoted to his task, very committed and devoted to his students, extremely loving, very altruistic, wanted the best for everyone.” Heaven’s Gate® Member

“I truly love Vianna and respect her integrity.” ThetaHealing™ Member

 “You’re living In your own separate body, you’re having your own life experience, so to actually tell your brain that it’s connected to everything may not be so easy.” Vianna Stibal, Founder, ThetaHealing™

“Breaking away from the world isn’t easy, it’s tough.” Marshall Applewhite, Founder, Heaven’s Gate®

“When you are connecting to the energy of all that is you are connected.” Vianna Stibal, Founder, ThetaHealing™

“We suggest that anyone serious about considering this go into their most quiet place and ask, scream, with all of their being, directing their asking to the Highest Source they can imagine (beyond Earth’s atmosphere), to give them guidance.” Heaven’s Gate® Member

“I received the message.” Vianna Stibal, Founder, ThetaHealing™

“I have been clearly informed.” Marshall Applewhite, Founder, Heaven’s Gate®

“Cult this and cult that, it’s ridiculous. Jesus was in a cult… the word cult only means ‘a group’.” Mom of Heaven’s Gate® Member

“I know about cults first hand, honey, and this is as far away from a cult than you could possible understand.” ThetaHealing™ Member

♦ On March 26, 1997, near San Diego, CA, Marshall Applewhite led his followers of Heaven’s Gate® to their deaths, via suicide. They believed that the world as we know it was about to be “recycled” to start over and make way for a new civilization. When the Hale Bopp comet got closer to Earth, they took it as a sign that it was time to leave their “vessels” (bodies) and move on to the Next Level. While preparing for their eventual ‘turning in of their vessels’ (their bodies), they spread the word to others and chronicled their journey, which included their final words on video- later released to the media. 39 people took their lives that day, but there are still followers of this cult even today. They believed Applewhite to be Jesus reincarnated as “Do”.   http://www.heavensgate.com/

♦ In 1995, after allegedly being diagnosed with cancer, Vianna Stibal purported to heal that cancer instantly and spontaneously. From there she created a technique called Orian, later named ThetaHealing™. Vianna claims that using this technique that you can heal anything- mentally, physically, emotionally as well as inanimate objects. Members are taught that through her series of classes that you can receive a Doctorate of ThetaHealing, and that in one of her ‘upper’ classes, you can learn to walk through walls and refill liquids. All are taught that healings are instantaneous and, if they’re not, then you must do “Belief Work” to fix your personal blocks. To date, ThetaHealing reports members in the thousands throughout several different countries.

◊ Please Note: All pictures are from online testimonials of members of Heaven’s Gate® and ThetaHealing™. The order of the pictures do not necessarily correlate with the nearby quotations. Each picture of the Heaven’s Gate members do have quotations listed throughout the post; not all Theta Healers® have a quote on the post but are for the purpose of showing examples of those who were recorded giving testimonials.

Science 101

We have recently been made aware of another excellent article on Theta Healing.   This one comes from Dr. Doug DeSalles M.D. on the website:  Sacramento Men’s Health.

In the article, Dr. DeSalles does an excellent job of picking apart the core tenets of Theta Healing and illustrating the fallacies of nearly every claim made by Vianna Stibal and the supporters of Theta Healing.   On top of that, he goes on to point out how putting faith in something like Theta Healing is not only risky, but can quite literally be deadly.

We urge you to read through this well written and articulate article and assess the facts for yourself.

Theta Healing: 

A Cancer “cure” that Kills. 

Truth will out,

-Perry O’Veritas.