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Unconditional Love… for Your Cash

**Disclaimer =  The following post was originally found on Lindsey Stock’s former website http://www.donttreadontruth.com  – which no longer exists.  We have pulled this post from our copied archives and are re-posting it here.  Lindsey no longer operates or maintains a blog.  She had no involvement in our re-posting of her material. **

[We] encourage everyone who comes across this blog to watch the following video:

 

BBC Video On Theta Healing

 

A few things stood out to me the first time I watched it. I put up my prior post (The Healing Touch) the night it aired, in the midst of my shock that the BBC actually did a story on ThetaHealing after all this time

But I couldn’t get one part of the report out of my mind. It just kept gnawing at me!

This goes back to the core of why I’m still doing this. No matter how sarcastic I can be, or how much I joke about Vianna’s gross nasal issues, the reason for this blog, for my book, for comments on YouTube, etc. is for one reason only: It is heartbreaking and hurtful to my very soul to know that people around the world are innocently searching for help, and Vianna’s lure traps them when they’re at their most vulnerable.

The anonymous man on the BBC Newsnight story spent £1,200 (approx. $1,920) on worthless ThetaHealing sessions. He represents all of the anonymous, faceless, embarrassed, duped people in many parts of the world. His identity may be hidden, but his voice speaks for those whom fake healings and devotion are given- those who Vianna and her underlings care nothing about. To them, he was a walking wad of cash. And for those of us who had/have placed undeserved faith in the Theta clan, as he did, our health and well-being are code words… lures… to trap us into paying for that which they are incapable of providing. They see our need, find the vulnerability, and pounce.

Unconditional Love: The Theta Way

It goes something like this: “I care so much about you! I want you to be healthy, with a hot, rich husband/wife! You have no legs? That’s okay, we can regrow them! Want a summer wedding in mid winter? That’s okay, we can change the weather! Cancer? Well, that’s our specialty! Who are you to say you can’t afford our fees… you can’t afford to not do this!!”

ThetaHealing: We Love Your Money

It’s all just a lure, a lovely worded modality, filled with terms like “unconditional love” and “love and light” and “going up to God” and “downloading feelings”. There is no shortage of people telling me, “But Vianna did a healing on me FOR FREE!!! So she’s definitely not all about the money!” Like any cult, they’re not going to come right out and tell you all of the hidden, strange beliefs that ThetaHealing actually embraces. They’re not going to sell you their pitch of why you should join by stating that it takes many, many thousands of (US) dollars to get to the top of the Theta pyramid, and that you have to re-certify every couple of years (not for free), and that Vianna comes out with a new book whenever she gets a new sickness or near death experience (which is shockingly- or not shockingly, depending upon your stance- quite often) and that teachers are required to purchase the newest editions of her books, along with manuals, travel costs, etc.

ThetaHealing is NOT an inexpensive hobby. It’s a cult that lures in those who are in need of something- usually money, relationships, babies and weight loss. Now may be a good time to mention again that Vianna and her son have both been married 4 times each and one daughter has 3 kids with a man who refuses to marry her, that one of Vianna’s daughters has had repeated miscarriages, and that Vianna (and her heaviest daughter) have had liposuction and still struggle with obesity… and that clearly the money they earn is from a rather unconventional source.

Payment for Services Rendered

I’ve heard too many times to count, that “Vianna has to make money, too!” and that such is the reason she charges for healing. I definitely wouldn’t care that she was making a fortune off of people if it was actually a worthwhile spending of money… money that other people had to work hard for. I believe that people have original ideas all of the time! I’m definitely a fan of thinkers, of those who use the brains that God gave us to find new ways to improve the old and invent the new. Making money is a part of this culture, and making a LOT of money is not a bad thing!!

But this is no regular job. Vianna is still pretending after 16 years that she healed herself of her invisible cancer. And thus the Theta trap, with “unconditional love” for money.

The Sick Stay Sick

The anonymous man from the report mentioned that he should have sought medical help, and that, “There was never any suggestion I should go back to my doctor, which is what I needed to do.” and this is where my heart aches!

It’s not common for ThetaHealers to want to involve doctors. In fact, in my experience with the family, Vianna and her children/grandchildren visited doctors far more than any of their followers… which is something they worked very, very hard to cover. Generally, if doctors (or other sources of health- acupuncturists, massage therapists, etc.) were involved, then the sick would get better. And where would the need for ThetaHealing lie? The sick must stay sick, and receive healing after healing after useless Theta healing, or they’d be out of business.

There are many, many people in the world searching for answers, searching for help- sick, lonely, poor, or simply seeking improvement- and the self help conmen are aplenty! There is no shortage of those who promise the world for a small fee, we all know that. But when someone starts a business, and makes a ridiculous amount of money off of an unproven healing technique, off of lies??? That’s despicable!

There is no longer an excuse needed for Vianna- she can get a real job, like all of the rest of us, who actually do something to earn money. I don’t get paid to pray for people. And if that’s truly all Vianna does, then she should do it, too. I can promise you right now that Vianna is no closer to God than the fat, drunk guy down the street from me.

Healing, Not ThetaHealing?

There never has been, and never will be, any proof that Vianna Stibal ever had cancer. Since it is impossible to heal something that never existed, the very premise of ThetaHealing (aka the fake channeling from God) is nothing but a sick conning of the sick.

I believe in healing. I believe in God. I absolutely believe that faith can work miracles! But ThetaHealing is as much about healing as Bill Gates is a master of gates. ThetaHealing is merely a con, a way to lure those in need to follow someone whom appears to have healed herself of cancer! But it didn’t happen. Save your money. You don’t have to pay for faith or healing.

If this sounds like a group that you would want to learn more from, please visit the ThetaHealing website for more information. But while you consider it, remember what our good friend Jiminy Cricket said…

Jiminy Cricket: Go ahead, make a fool of yourself, then maybe you’ll listen to your conscience.

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5 thoughts on “Unconditional Love… for Your Cash

  1. I’ve been following this stuff for a long time and every time I see stuff like this I see something that makes me sick to my stomach. The part in this video that shot out most to me was when the media tried to interview Vianna on the street.

    Vianna actually smiled and laughed like a little school girl would when they are getting attention they crave. If you cannot see the pure narcissism in this woman, then you are blind beyond repair. This makes me sick there are people like this taking advantage of people who are lost and truly trying to find answers.

    This is clearly the work of Satan. Satan doesn’t work by the power of fiery demons and screeching banshees, he’s very clever, he lures you in with hope, sometimes flashy lights, soothing music, and occasionally a sense of warm, fuzzy feelings that would entice even the Pope sometimes. (Well, I’m sure he’s pretty used to not putting himself in situations to be enticed by charlatans.)

    Vianna and Guy will blame everyone else for her demise, and try and sue as many as possible in the process.

    “You can bend it and twist it… You can misuse and abuse it… But even God cannot change the Truth.”

  2. Unfortunately we don’t need to invoke a naturally evil entity to explain this away, some humans genuinely don’t care about the well being of others, and from what I’ve read, sadly it would seem that Vianna is one of those unfortunate people

  3. Reading all the stuff is quite frustrating. I have been following Silwa method of healing for more than a year now. Have healed few peoples suffering from health problems. I always try to get to the Alpha state before healing. Mostly successful. Never thinking of money making by this way, . Then who is going to decide about Alpha or Theta states of mind? Please any one reply.

    Khalid

    • Khalid:
      Thank you for your comment. We assume you are referring to the “SilVa” method, and not the Silwa method of which we are not familiar. The alpha brain wave functions at approximately 8–12 Hz and is generally referred to as the state of wakeful relaxation – specifically with the eyes closed. You mention that you have healed people “suffering with health problems”. We’d be very curious to hear which health problems specifically that you’ve healed, and how you have proved that the healing has occurred. It’s honorable that you’ve declined taking money for this service that you’ve provided. And our invisible hat is off to you for that.

      We are a little confused as to the question of your comment though. When you ask, “who is going to decide about Alpha or Theta states of mind?” are you asking, who determines if someone is actually in these brain states? Good question. And the short answer is very simple: An EEG or Electroencephalogram. This is a device that is used to measure brain wave states in human beings. And it is something that Vianna Stibal, the “founder” of Theta Healing, has steadfastly refused to be measured by time and time again.

      Individuals who make claims about spontaneous healings that have occurred as a result of eliciting specific brain wave states have the unique opportunity of being able to prove their claims through extremely accurate and scientific measurements. The kinds of measurements performed by an EEG. Unfortunately, to date, not one of these claims has ever been proved through the use of an EEG. And the reason that none of these have been proven through the use of an EEG is because no one who uses “brain waves” to perform healings has been willing to be measured through such a device.

      And that’s really all that they would have to do: agree to be hooked up to an EEG while they 1) induce the altered brain wave state and 2) perform a healing while in said brain wave state. And 3) depending on the nature of the condition being healed, show further measurements of a reversal in symptomology. Through say…perhaps, a blood test.

      Really quite simple.

      We hope that this provides you with some additional information Khalid. And in the event that your question wasn’t answered, please feel free to post again with more specifics.

      Thank you for your comment.

      Truth will out.
      -P O’V.

      • Dear Mr. perryoveritas,

        Happy to see your reply.

        True, it is “Silva Method”. I had attanded a three day workshop conducted by Dr. Moiz hussain at Hotel reagent Plaza Karachi last year.

        My wife had serious stomach ulcer problem and was taking medicines for over six months. I treated her ulcers after deep relexation and using sliva method of healing. afterwards the signs of pain were gone. Before this spiritual healing she could not eat pickles. Now she is doing it on daily basis. This was my first test case. However, There is no medical evidence to this healing, only observation.

        The 2nd case was medically proved, only by chance. My younger sister in law had a 1.9mm thick cist in her ovry. She was also taking medications with almsot no result. She was unable to conceive due to this reason, as doctors said. Too much pain and irregularity in the periods. I did silva healing to her without telling her and kept waitng for a news. After few days, I met with my brother in a party. He told me that all of sudden, she had speedy periods and had to undergo ultrasound and some other tests. It was reavealed that the thickness of the cist was reduced and now only 1.1mm. The pain was also gone.

        Reading about theta healing being a fraud was quite frustrating as mentioned before. But now I know that you have bad examples. It is quite clear that a true guru can go into deep relexation within seconds whether it is alpha or theta or some unknown state. Checking with EEG machine is a very good idea and no one should be afraid of it. I hope that I will get a chance to test myself one day, that how deep my relexation could go. I belive that there must be a state of mind where you can do miracle healing.

        Will highly appreciate more guidlines.

        Regards
        Khalid

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